Source:Jake Vanderbeck– Mr. Conservative Barry Goldwater, talking about the Christian-Right (who are supposed to be the Modern Conservatives) on abortion.
Source:The New Democrat
“On religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God’s name on one’s behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both.
I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in “A,” “B,” “C” and “D.” Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?
And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of “conservatism.”
Speech to the Senate
Source:Shin Do– Mr. Conservative Barry Goldwater, talking about the Christian-Right (who are supposed to be the Modern Conservatives) on abortion.
From Shin Do
When you look at Barry Goldwater and his politics, you have to look at Conservatives and conservatism and what Conservatives actually believe believe and what conservatism actually is and what it isn’t.
There are Conservatives and then there are Conservatives who are very different and don’t sound like Barry Goldwater or William F. Buckley and other Conservatives who represent the Center-Right at least in America.
There are political Conservatives who are conservative in a constitutional sense and they believe in conserving the U.S. Constitution and our individual rights. If you want to use the term Conservative-Libertarian that would be fine, but that’s what they’re about meaning the job of government is to protect out individual rights and protect all of them for all of us and every American including our civil liberties. And not trample on them because our liberties and free choice violates one’s religious beliefs like members of the Christian-Right in America.
And there are Religious Conservatives, or Cultural Conservatives, Christian Conservatives. I don’t like using the term Social Conservative like the Family Research Council and other groups like that, because my definition of a Social Conservative is someone who believes in conserving our social or personal freedom, not trying to use big government to trample on our personal freedom and civil liberties.
Political Conservatives are what’s known as Constitutional Conservatives. People who believe in conserving our Constitution, not trampling on it because some of our rights protect what the Christian-Right would call immoral behavior. And not just abortion, but homosexuality, pornography, adultery, entertainment, and unfortunately I could go on.
The Ron Paul’s of the world and to a certain extent his son Senator Rand Paul even though he goes to sleep every night with President Donald Trump politically, ( and I mean that figuratively ) represent what’s left of the Constitutional-Conservative or Conservative-Libertarian movement. The Conservatives on CNN the so-called Never-Trumpers people like Tara Setmayer, Amanda Carpenter, S.E. Cupp, the faction of the Republican Party that use to dominate the GOP really until George H.W. Bush left The White House in 1993 and the Christian-Right essentially took over that party.
Conservatism, in a political sense is about conserving the U.S. Constitution. That’s what conservative is about which is conserving what you believe in and value and in a political and governmental sense that means conserving the U.S. Constitution and our individual rights. Not trying to use big government to erase them, because our individual freedoms violates one’s religious and moral beliefs.
Christian-Conservatives, are different because they’re not about the U.S. Constitution, but instead their interpretations of the Bible and conserving their Christian way of life. And believe that big government has a role to play in seeing that no one lives outside of their religious and moral values and outside of their cultural lifestyle. It’s not individual freedom that they’re interested in, but their religious and moral values.
When I think of Conservatives, I think of Barry Goldwater and the movement that he represented and still represents today. People who believe in individual freedom period and that it’s not the job of big government to decide how free Americans should live in what they do in the privacy of their homes and free time, just as long as they’re not hurting innocent people with what they’re doing.
I don’t think of people who believe their religious and moral values should be forced on everyone else in America, including non-Christian or even non Protestants or non-fundamentalists. And I don’t think of people who believe America is being going to hell since 1965 or so morally and are worried that modern America doesn’t look like the America they grew up with culturally, or even ethnically and racially.